So Joe Xu Haiqiao might be the fiancé who dumped Crystal Liu Yifei’s Zhao Pan Er in their latest hit A Dream of Splendor aka Meng Hua Lu. But the 39-year-old actor has got to be the happiest actor to be cast as a baddie ever. After all, It’s no secret that Xu Haiqiao is a huge, huge fan of Mulan actress Crystal Liu Yifei.
Getting Paid to Fanboy
Xu Haiqiao had quite a fanboy moment when he giddily recounted how the actress added him on Chinese messaging app WeChat on her own accord. I mean, what fan wouldn’t right? That’s why he’s being touted as the most successful fan since he’s getting paid while he’s at it. Besides, there’s something super cute about seeing the actor who himself is no slouch when it comes to the fan department – he has 11.6 million followers on Weibo after all, fanboy all over his favourite star. In fact, they’re saying seeing that his character Ouyang Xu was such a douchebag on the show when he dumped her and then later tried to drive her out of town, Netizens have jokingly said he’s probably the only one shipping his couple pairing with Liu Yifei.
First Time Playing a Villain
When asked previously about whether he would be willing to play a character that’s a jerk, Xu Haiqiao had responded, “not really.” The actor said that he’s actually never played a villain throughout his career. However, he eventually took on the role of Ouyang Xu to work with Liu Yifei since he doesn’t know if there’ll be another chance in the future. He happily says, “First time playing a scumbag, have to dedicate it to a person who’s worth it”.
Xu Haiqiao vs Chen Jianbin?
With the cast of A Dream of Splendor gaining attention given the success of their show, Netizens also couldn’t help but notice Xu Haiqiao’s babyface. Would you believe the actor was in his late 30s when he filmed the series? This led to some folks commenting how they couldn’t believe Xu Haiqiao was a year older than Chen Jianbin was when he filmed Legend of Zhen Huan almost a decade ago. Short of drinking from the fountain of youth, Xu Haiqiao’s beauty secret is definitely one we’d all love to find out.
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Hunter2020
Married with kids. Now I know y they paired Chen Xiao with LYF. They needed a safe actress (aka unatractive/bland/superstar but cant act) to go with ML so she doesnt ruin his reputation on the screen and in real life. Imagine if they paired Chen Xiao with an actually hot girl. What would the wife Michelle Chen and her kid then think?
Water army hunter
Get a life Trashta.
Irina
You must be blind. LYF is far more beautiful than any of the C-ent actresses out there. Or do you prefer plastic beauty like ZLY, or the one who has too much makeup?
And he chose his wife (who he personally chose to act with him in Condor Heroes) over someone like ZLY, so that means he want something more than just appearance for his wife.
Why do you sound so bitter? You are not even his spouse. Or are you his secret lover?
Vuy Hoi
Even if MC is not that pretty, it’s obvious she puts on no make up at all and didn’t do plastic surgery. Compare MC’s bare face with ZLY’s bare face, I pick MC every time.
When MC got bullied for not being pretty like LYF, MC never got jealous and blame LYF over it. Remember that when ZLY got nicknamed “Little Yang Mi” she got so jealous she went to Weibo and called YM plastic. Bc YM never reply, she cried that YM never forgave her and forced her to apologize. After a decade already, every now and then, she still uses the media to bully YM and MC.
Because of the amount of actresses and actors ZLY’s marketers are hurting, if there is anyone jealous at this time then it might just be that person. Even when FSF and his mother are the care taker of her own child, they aren’t spared. What can competitors that are only outsiders count as?
Irina
@Vuy Hoi
Wasn’t his wife got bullied for (supposedly) being the third-party in the relationship between CX and ZLY?
How funny that ZLY called YM plastic, when it was obvious to all that she had been copying YM’s face via plastic surgery. And it is good that YM never reply to her. She should not be wasting her time on attention-seeker like ZLY.
Speaking of the child, I have heard of gossip saying that the child was actually fathered by ZLY’s gold master, but since his identity must be protected, ZLY entered a contract marriage with FSF and let him assume the identity of the child’s father in the public. That might explained why FSF and his mother became the target of her slander, and why she can get away with everything, despite her lack of talents.
Evy
How was MC even the third party when ZLY was the one found with Wang Hao and his mother on honeymoon site? Not long before that happened, her rumored bf was William Chan because they had matching clothes and items, and their kissing scene took 3 hours to shoot, Charlene Choi broke up with him after those things and ZLY was the 3rd party in that one.
About ZLY contracting FSF, that must be speculations. When she was in Princess Agents, she made her doubles do all sorts of easy things and wouldn’t touch any of the male leads, I thought her bf would be someone like the vice president. FSF seems powerful to get roles with Zhou Xun and Liu Yifei, one might think he’s almighty but definitely not to the point he can control just any production like that. Also proven he can’t control any of the media either.
N.
Here in the comments there are many people who developed a parasocial relationship with Chen Xiao.
Moa
If she is ugly, your physical appearance should be similar to that of a zombie.
Camie
No matter what you think, Joe Xu likes her. I don’t even know why you’re trying, it’s like an obsession.
Momoca
You are obssessed with this woman, do you realize? Asians are dumb sometimes.
Candy
It must be a crime not to be blessed with an appearance you approve of. I hope the people you are close to are pretty, otherwise, they must have a hard time with you around.
Nora L
Women will always be jealous of other women. It’s funny how you call Liu Yi Fei ugly, while you consider Chen Xiao irresistibly handsome.
Jul
LYF looks better than MC, and CX is not that handsome, so….
Water Army Hunter
Trashta is still jealous CX married MC to this day. The CX and LYF kissing scenes must have hurt her so much. If so, go trap Jeffrey Wang Hao for a wedding, too bad he is married but at least his mom is her fan so there won’t be so much trashing another MIL. It’s thanks to him she has huge international water armies.
Find every opportunity of the CX-MC couple together, where MC is smiling except CX, then spread thousands of false rumors that CX doesn’t like MC anymore and they divorced. CX married MC because she’s better. MC isn’t a call lady that travels with rich men overseas for money.
Hunter2020
Whatcha talk about?!?! All I said was Chen Xiao is married with kid(s). The only one they were gonna pair him up with is some bland unattractive chick whos on the same level in fame but cannot seriously act. By extension since they picked LYF, she must be that bland unattractive chick who cannot act for beans. I don’t understand why a lot of Chinese think LFY is the standard beauty. I’m Asian and thinks she’s borderline ugly. Hence, fits the perfect role for a married man with kid(s).
Coralie
Not sure if you’re trolling or not, but I can’t find the lie in your statements. LYF is borderline average. She can be pretty in some scenes, but so can just about any girl given any amount of makeup or angle. And her acting is boring. After all these years, very little has improved.
Chen Xiao acting is fine though. He’s not the type to like a pretty woman. I think he likes cute women which is why MC and ZLY fits the bill. But pairing him up with LYF, despite her wooden acting, is still watchable here.
I’m not super impressed by the drama. Cinematography is nice, everyone’s acting is passable, but the plot is so…forced. I wouldn’t give this a high rewatch value, but the choreography, cinematography is nice
Moa
Average? She certainly is not. Average women in East Asia don’t look like her. Not even a little bit.
Naomi
What a bad mentality you have. You fell into an echo chamber; you aligned yourself with a user who wrote an opinion similar to yours, you wouldn’t even have cared if the user had written a death threat to Liu Yi Fei. You only care about believing you are right. It’s a sign that you are ignorant and not interested in educating yourself.
You said Michelle Chen and Zhao Li Ying are cute. I have checked their pictures, and what I see are average looking women, which makes it clear that you are a fan of one of them.
Nora L
She (Coralie) leaves comments like that on all posts related to CX’s co-workers. I guess she has a parasocial relationship with him. She could even be a sasaeng.
LLegaste tú
Coralie, you are in love with Chen Xiao, aren’t you? I accidentally found your comments on Jayne Stars, and I noticed that you always leave rude opinions towards the actresses who work with him. You’re jealous, I guessed. Confirming it was fun. Jealousy kills the soul. You’re an adult, stop the delusion. Parasocial relationships won’t get you to a good place. You need psychological help.
Nora L
For real! She is mental ill.
Jullia
If she’s ugly, what about you, as an Asian? Do you look better than her, without makeup and good angles? Above average is a perfect description for Liu Yi Fei’s physical appearance. But you can’t recognize it because you obviously have negative feelings towards her, you’re not realistic and you’re letting your personal considerations control your judgment.
I have never seen Chinese netizens claim that she is the standard of beauty. You’re probably the one who thinks that, and you’ve come into conflict with yourself because you can’t get your thoughts in order.
The only thing you are right about is her acting, she is not a good actress. It is the truth.
Soraya
Women are perfect for attacking each other.
Camie
No matter what you think, Joe Xu likes her. I don’t even know why you’re trying, it’s like an obsession.
Candy
Hunter2020, it must be a crime not to be blessed with an appearance you approve of. I hope the people you are close to are pretty, otherwise, they must have a hard time with you around.
Anon
I feel like I seen Hunter2020 made lots of pro-communist commentaries here often.
Nora L
So what if you are Asian? Does your opinion gain validity by saying so?
Hj
My eyes must be blind because I think LFY is attractive and beautiful. I don’t watch this drama because I don’t like CX. He doesn’t do it for me, never watch any of his dramas.
Anon
LYF looked really pretty in Chinese Paladin but that’s it. I don’t understand Chinese beauty standards, she looks average AF and her acting is meh, what’s the draw?
XZF
She didn’t do any dramas for sixteen years (since 2006) – I’m wondering for that reason people are more anxious to see her in dramas? It’s just my thought.
Candy
She looks above average. I guess you’ve never seen an average woman in China.
Nuria
Anon, you need to put your thoughts in order: is it pretty or not? Does your comment mean that we can decide what day, month, year we want to have beauty?
Soraya
What do you look like?
Sandra
You must be the most beautiful creature.
Amalia
So, are you suggesting that no one should like LYF just because you don’t like her?
Juanita
Could it be that Joe Xu likes her personality? It’s not all about beauty and even talent. I doubt that the people you love are beautiful and talented, right?
I don’t understand why you assume that in order for us to like a person, beauty must be the main factor. There are attractive actors and actresses who have bad character, I wouldn’t be interested in them for a minute.
Besides, what does the Chinese standard of beauty have to do here? No one has ever considered LYF as a specimen of Chinese beauty. Only you guys think about it. Still, she would stand out in a group of average people.
What’s the draw? Ask yourself why you are here if you don’t like her.
Lisa
I think LYF has a classical Chinese beauty when she doesn’t smile, but when she does, I notice her over bite. It’s kind of sad to say I don’t find her very attractive when she does smile. Her acting is average for sure. I think people probably enjoy working with her because of her work ethic. I read before that she does most of her own stunts. She also beat out a thousand other actresses for Mulan, so there’s something to say about why she’s lasted in the industry this long.
Evy
Her teeth are cute the way they are. Everyone defines beauty differently. To most people, she broke the beauty record and it’s become so difficult to find anyone else as pretty, that is something to be jealous about.
It’s not only her dedication but she is really good with her expressions and creativeness. She is actually the first to look so pretty even when crying hard, I feel lots of actresses afterward felt the need to meet the same standard and copy after. Even in just speaking, she knows how to speak along with her acting, at the same time she is gifted with a great voice. For example in Once Upon a Time, when she had to say the same line “I wish for 3 lives 3 world, ten miles of peach blossoms” twice as Susu and Bai Qian I notice she doesn’t just repeat it the same way twice. For each character, it is said with great uniqueness. Not just in speaking, she even has a great sense of style in how to pose, whether it’s for a picture or filming, and dancing traditionally or hip pop. She knows how to make things fit. She can even draw too. Hard to believe envious people when they say she can’t act, when she understands almost every art out there, except acting? Makes no sense. This girl totally has creativity in almost everything. I can see why people are envious of her, what doesn’t she lacks?
Anon
I’m sorry but a lot of other actresses are multi talented, pretty AND CAN ACT, I won’t call names because I don’t want fan wars. Everytime anyone asks why LYF is so behind everyone starts with this beauty speech which gets on my nerves. The last time I checked she was an actress and not a model, and for that reason Once upon a time and Mulan flopped hard. We already know she’s the most beautiful Chinese actress but it’s insulting to use that as an argument against other people’s hardwork. Is natural beauty earned? Why should it count for anything?
Evy
There are quite a few others as talented but all I see is really just bullying if people are jealous about their beauty and they don’t have that much international fans. Such as Tong Yao. Also Tong Liya, she’s good at dancing and acting but ridiculously underrated and also bullied about being unable to act whenever she is unfortunately in stupid dramas. Others like Yang Mi is not that talented in many areas other than acting, she’s good at drawing though. She has international fans but lots of haters recently due to false rumors about diva attitudes and plastic surgery. I don’t think YM has any background in dance but she is willing to learn and did an excellent job in Wang Zhaojun, singing is ok, voice is squeaky like a mouse but she makes sure to deliver lines smoothly without wrong pronunciations. Even so, YM doesn’t escape from hate of line deliveries and all sorts of things.
Ones with no talent at all is like Zhao Liying, cannot dance and uses doubles, even when she only plays as the extra she still needs a double extra and calls that dedication. Cannot sing and only mimics but still release an album with Kris Wu. Cannot speak either and made random pauses but dubs for Disney. Like many others, most of her dramas are unfortunately bad but the reviews are different because she has international fans believing her fake pitiful inspiring story. Also get help from rich CEOs from the states like Wang Hao. Most of the time it’s not about beauty and talent but the right way to advertise and bite all your opponents.
Anonymous
@Anon, Face value is important. For example, neither Chen Xiao nor Zhao Lying was impressive in Legend of Luzhen. People watched it because he was handsome and she looked cute. I only watched THE PALACE becuse of Zhou Dong Yu had the ability to captivate me within a short trailer. I got disgusted when I found out so many reviews and articles lying that Zhao Lying acted better than Dongyu. So fake. First, Dongyu is a golden horse winner, Lying isn’t. Next up, Dongyu also has a grassroot background but never uses it as a selling point like Lying. That’s crazy if Lying is so obsessed with the number 1 best actress titlement, so much that will buy marketing data against anyone outperforming her. The role of Zhao Pan’er can’t simply be played by someone with no talent as the role requires the person to pour tea with a dance. If the actress doesn’t have such talent, at the minimum, I expect them to have a face with some intelligence. So face does matter. If they still don’t have both things, then they better be so good at acting. One such person I approve is Ariel Lin, I thought she looks too cute to be smart but she is so good at acting she will always be the wittiest Huang Rong in my book. She too performed her fight scenes gracefully. Even Li Yi Tong (newer Huang Rong) who has a dance background did her fighting so slow and did not even insert in any strength or force at all. Ariel’s background is also grassroot, never bragged. So the way an actress looks impacts very much. It’s not about their background. Yifei’s face value is very smart and mature to play a role with a big brain without hurting anyone’s head.
Lying was miscasted in Legend of Minglan becuse her face looks dumb. Her speech and nondedicated acting made it worst. Other than making cute faces like she’s posing for magazines, there’s no other ability. Unless malicious marketing counts as an acting ability. Oh, but let’s not forget prior to plastic surgery, although she made cute faces all the time she didn’t look cute at all that’s why it took her a while to explode.
People like Angelababy’s biggest crime is acting with her eyes opening too big and looking ugly when supposing to act surprised or angry. It’s wrong to put an effort in acting realistic. Looking pretty is way more important. She just need to learn remaining pretty at all times like Lying, don’t squeeze or move the face at all even when crying. Yifei might be the only actress I notice that squeezed her face hard when crying but still look goddessy, unfortunately, although as pretty as Angelababy & Gulinazha, they don’t have such luck. Not many people still look like goddesses when they cry hard. They need to fake it as pretty as possible. Acting or beauty, depends if you’re a bot or a true casual drama watcher. Unless I get paid, I will never vouch the stupidest drama ever as the best drama. Or advertise an actress with no hardwork as someone most talented.
Sara
Beauty matters in this industry, otherwise you wouldn’t be talking about it on this site.
Soraya
You have a hater complex. Mulan failed for reasons that are related to Disney, consult and drop the ignorance. You don’t know what to use to try to validate your opinion.
Anon
Exactly! Also the story for 10 Miles is damn too much to pack in 45-60min. That person is obviously jealous of LYF.
Lisa
@Evy, don’t get me wrong. LYF not smiling to me is like a 10+ on a scale of 1-10. When she does smile with her teeth, it retracts for me quite a bit. But LYF at her worst is still above average unlike some of the commentary up there that is saying she’s borderline ugly. I also think she’s one of the best casted actress for Xiao Longnv, if not the best. It was just unfortunate that she got paired with Huang Xiaoming’s over the top and kind of old looking Yang Guo.
I stand by my comment that her acting is average though. Just because she is so exemplary in other arts, doesn’t naturally mean she’s exemplary in acting. I haven’t seen Once Upon a Time, because I just didn’t understand how they can fit all that in a movie so I felt like it was going to be a disaster. I’ll take your word for it that she played the role well. While I’m watching this particular drama, I just didn’t find her trying to seduce Yinzhang’s scumbag husband scenes that convincing. She is very graceful in all the tea pouring and dancing scenes though, where you can clearly see she has a dance background.
Mirna
Finally, a realistic comment. They call her ugly, when she is not. They must be trying hard to convince themselves of that. She’s certainly not a good actress. Her acting is average, no progress over the years.
Enough Trash
Why are you making so many fake names to say she’s pretty but can’t act? Everyone already knows that’s something Trashta has been hiring people to do to every actress out there over the past decades. You can stop already, that’s not gonna work.
Yang not Yang
Why would you care if they do? You complain about multiple accounts but not about how rude users are being?
Just Wondering
I might be thinking too much but does the hot news 9 Chinese men beating up women reminds anyone else of when Pan’er and her sisters got beat up in public?
I wonder if this drama will run into trouble when the public does this, often they will blame dramas for “teaching” them certain things. It’s how time travelling got banned because the public started buying scamming products that claim to make people time travel.
For investigation, the 9 men will be transferred to Langfang, Hebei. Coincidentally, it’s ZLY’s hometown and her father is a police officer.
HL- Hoh Liu
I read this news was announced around the same time Kris Wu’s trial case was announced. But this beating news took public attention and Kris Wu’s case did not create a wave.. Could those 2 be related…I dont know. ZLY’s dad is a police officer? I did not know that.
Lisa
I actually didn’t make the connection, but I don’t think the drama taught these men anything. These men also have had previous assault charges. It’s a long history ingrained in our society that it’s okay to hit women because they’re lesser than you or they’re your property. Domestic violence wasn’t even punishable by law until within the last 10 years in China. This kind of behavior exists in many societies all across the world, not just China.
Anon
It depends if they get a censorship. In the Story of my best friend with Liu Shi Shi and Ni Ni, there was a cat fight that women slap each other and it got censored because the govt think it will encourage Chinese girls to copy them.
HL- Hoh Liu
Unfortunately, these sort of abusers will only fear someone more powerful than them…
Applefish
Man, I can’t tell whether it’s the same person or multiple person all view ZLY as the big bad. Personally I don’t like ZLY but this is a bit much lol. LYF, she didn’t impress me in Chinese paladin but then I didn’t think highly of that series either, it was too slow for me. One thing for sure though, I will take LYF as an actress over ZLY, because yes, ZLY used way too much body double and it’s not even discrete on the screen, you can really tell it’s not her on the screen without trying >_> idc if it’s the editor that can’t do the editing properly or director for not able to film the right angle or shot, it’s still primarily her fault for not be able to do the scene >_>
Anon
When I read the comments on Minglan on MDL I also cannot tell if it’s the same person writing same praises there or people truly likes boring stuff either. I think zly is a bit too much on marketing.
Yooi
What happened with the comment section??? Lol. Both actors are pretty and handsome. Obviously they look better than the haters. Im not their fan but seriously, stop hating on them.
In acting department, LYF’s acting is so so but still, she’s better than some names. CX is really good. I havent finished anything with them both but i do enjoy watching them together in this drama.
HL- Hoh Liu
I find it amusing to see ZLY’s name popping out all the time in many articles that is not related to her….even this article…
Jia
Are you really surprised? I feel like this happens all the time with the comment section lol. all roads lead to ZLY.
Anon
Whenever it comes being jealous of Chen Xiao’s wife, where else are the haters from?
Julie
Sigh…. And I thought China’s fans/antis are the most toxic. This is just sad.
Anonymous
LYF is already a hollywood star many times, she isn’t desperate for international attention. Can’t say about the ones jealous and crying to break through internationally. Doesn’t sound hard for a CEO of ecommerce in the US to commercialize fake ads.
XZF
💜❤️💜❤️ “all roads lead to ZLY.” 😅😂🤣🥲
Anon
LMAO, obviously if I can’t be #1 then nobody else can be #1, will get rid of everyone.
Mir
Yes I agree, I think we can’t expect Oscar level acting, and I think LYF and CX still act much better than many of the idol actors out there.
Coralie
I’m on episode 17… This drama is turning into a melodrama. I’m still watching, but the development is slow moving.
I think LYF is adequate (for once) in a role here. Her physical characterization is suitable (tea pouring, dancing.) When it comes to acting, though, I still feel she’s too restrained – which has always been my biggest issue with her – she would never go the distance with her emotions because she’s too scared of looking ugly. But in this drama, where she’s supposed to be a stubborn and coolheaded MC, it works. She’s not supposed to exhibit too many feelings and, if she does, it can be muted, because her character is strong. Tailoring this character just for her.
I’ve watched Once Upon A Time, which was laughable because she was dull and she was paired with a guy who is just as bad of an actor as she is lol. And then, of course, there’s the infamous caricature of Mulan.
Anyone notice how all of her roles involve her being some type of strong, aloof and distant character? Especially the famous Xiao Longnv? Coincidence? Or maybe whoever cast her knows she can only do those types of roles?
Anon
Smelling so much jealousy.
HL- Hoh Liu
I just started watching this drama…it is much better quality than others we have recently.. but still not good enough to watch repeats.. I do feel LYF is suited for this role.. She is not the best actress but she is watchable.
Mishel
She only has one-dimensional acting skills, and you are conflicted when it comes to giving an opinion. First you call her “borderline average” and then you say she’s a “pretty” actress who’s afraid of looking ugly. You don’t even understand yourself, you need to put your thoughts in order.
The parasocial relationship you developed with Chen Xiao is worrisome.
Lauren
It’s 2022 and people still think about hating people who get close to their favorite actor. This Coralie has also made bad comments about MC just because she married CX. We are not advancing as humanity.
Coralie
I said she can be pretty depending on angles. Get your reading straight. And I also emphasized that anyone can be pretty depending on angles – if beauty is all that’s required for an actress, then by all means, none of what I said matters. But that’s a low bar to gauge an actress by. She’s not pretty. She’s average to me. What doesn’t save her in the face dept, she should make up for in the acting. Neither of which she excels in.
What parasocial relationship with Chen Xiao are you talking about?
Michel
At this point, you’ve become entangled with your comments. It is not worth exchanging commentary with people who can’t even put their thoughts in order. I guess you need to take a break and start getting to know yourself.
Michel
@Coralie I forgot to tell you that even if Hunter2020 had called LYF a whore, you would still say that you agree with her. You ignore insults, and personal attacks when it benefits your narrative. The comments Hunter2020 made about LYF are sexist, especially since she/he assumes that attractive women are home wreckers. Honestly, I don’t know if it’s your fault, it’s clear that many of us have iternalized misogyny. We call actresses who are certainly above average in looks, ugly ((I bet LYF looks better than you and me. Better than the people we see when we take a walk or get on the bus). But in the case of actors, they are called handsome, even if they are average. We have many cases.
If beauty is subjective, why bother contradicting a person when they say LYF is attractive?
Coralie
@michel so someone can say an actress is beautiful and share their subjective opinion, but somehow me having a differing opinion and expressing it is wrong?
Internalized misogyny? I champion women’s rights all the time, it’s so funny that you call it misogyny when I will critique men the same, if not even harsher than women. When all you hear about LYF is that she’s a beauty and she’s a great actress, I also want to express that she’s neither and people need better gauges. I don’t think Tiffany Tang has acting chops either, she’s too afraid of acting ugly – but she’s conventionally pretty. Of course ppl will disagree and say no they don’t think Tiffany is all that, which is cool with me. But oh no, calling LYF unattractive makes me the wrong one lol. I’m not that ridiculous.
Coralie
@michel also what hunter did said about her being a whore was from an earlier statement that I did not read. I only replied to that response of his where he said he doesn’t understand how she’s the standard of Chinese beauty. Absolutely agree with him there and while his statements are harsh about her being an unattractive BLAND actress, it’s definitely true.
Tayra
Celebrities bring out the worst in you guys. I’m sorry to intrude on your conversation, but beauty is subjective. There is no way to say that it is DEFINITELY TRUE, because even science said that it depends of the eye of the beholder. To me, she is attractive. If she is not for you, it is understandable. I don’t understand why they want to impose. Friend, I have seen user Hunter2020 attack those who consider Ms. Liu to be pretty. Pathetic.
I usually watched her work because I like her face, but her poor acting skills don’t allow me to move forward. But since Ms Liu is watchable enough in A Dream Of Splendor, here I am.
Tayra
You can make folks see that she is not a good actress, because it is true. But you can’t tell them that they should consider her not pretty, because again, beauty is subjective. There is no way that we can always have the same opinion, but the respect between us should never be lost in the first place.
Lora.
Strongly agree. The comment section is basically based on forcing opinions. There are users who are like, “If she’s ugly to me, everyone should think the same.” 🙄
I also find Liu Yi Fei attractive, with makeup I might add, because I have never seen a picture of her without it. A Dream Of Splendor is the only drama that she appears in that I have seen. Her performance here is watchable, but not good.
Acting is objective, but beauty cannot be. We never learn to be realistic.
LetsBeNice
Like what you said beauty is subject. Coralie is just expressing his/her opinion that they don’t think LYF is attractive. I didn’t find anything in her posts trying to convince or telling others they shouldn’t consider her pretty. This comment section has gone off the rails. I don’t even know why everyone is coming at Coralie when what Hunter2020 said is worse with the intent to insult. @Tayra, I find your comments very respectful, so I’m not talking about you. But some comments in this post is just craziness. People should just put this to rest and agree we all have difference of opinions in beauty and acting. It’s okay to not be on the same page.
Natalya
That’s what I’ve been trying to say, and not just in this article. I don’t understand why it’s hard for people to be respectful. I have never found Liu Yi Fei attractive, nor do I like the way she acts. I have expressed it without the need for derogatory words and insults. I have friends who like Liu Yi Fei, and I find it great because we even exchange different points of view.
Coralie
Thanks @LetsBeNice, i still stand by that I don’t find her looks appealing and since that’s really her claim to fame, aside from questionable acting skills, it hits people’s nerves about my opinions. People jumping the gun to conclusions thinks I’m forcing the opinion of ugliness to them, when in reality I’m in the minority and it’s them who have been pushing the narrative that her beauty is astounding. I’m only stating my opinions, nothing more or less.
Coralie
@Tayra acting is also very subjective, because lord knows people on this site also praise her for her acting skills! It’s like she can squeeze a few tears out and ppl are gushing over how well she emotes lol. I mean, anything is subjective until it can be proven and to many, ratings is evidence.
Coralie
And in the event I’m not clear, I meant that ratings is not clear evidence of quality of acting! It is SOMETIMES indicative of good acting, but usually it’s a mixed bag.
Lauren
So why did you write “it’s definitely true”? You said that beauty and acting are subjective aspects, but why you stated as if it were a universal judgment? The importance of writing “for me”.
Coralie
@ Lauren so anytime someone says she’s gorgeous, beautiful, awe-inspiring, is that a universal truth? Are you kidding me.
Coralie
@Lauren ok I left out the “definitely true” part. But if someone on here said LYF is definitely beautiful, I’m not going to take that as implication of EVERYONE’s truth. Notice I don’t go to everyone’s post to tell them they’re wrong, without them saying “for me.”
Lauren
I have not considered that acting can be subjective, a wooden facial expression (as long as it is not required, clearly there are characters that are described as calm/distant/neutral. They don’t need to have a wide range of emotions on their face) is not skillful.
It’s funny, though, because we don’t have hundreds of facial expressions in our daily lives.
Cora-LIE's colleague
LYF is very good at emoting but let’s act blind and not see it so our master will pay us well, she wants to be #1 and we need to make everyone looks bad except her.
Master Lying
The master’s name = Lying
The servant’s name = Cora-LIE
Coralie
@Lauren ever heard of the golden ratio? Objective beauty exists too. Going by that standard, you can judge one’s beauty by how closely they align with that ratio.
Lucía
@Coralie Science has even confirmed that beauty is subjective and that it is 50% linked to our personal experiences. In my country, the golden ratio topic has gone out of fashion, as have body measurements (90-60-90). It is closed-minded not to let each of us consider who we find attractive and who we do not. You have every right to express that Liu Yi Fei is not pretty to you.
Lauren
You admitted that you let “definitely true” go. End to the discussion.
Anon
I notice this show being downrated from 8.7 to 8.2 on MDL within 15-30 min, and that only happens to the shows the Minglan fans are jealous of. Autumn Ballad was one of the victims before it, doesn’t happen to every show. Funny how this show is so fast and people still say it’s slow. While something that froze on screen like Minglan, people still think it’s not slow enough. Wondering why some people’s international fans are so rampant, maybe they think they can be the better Disney Mulan when they use so much doubles?
Anonymous
Don’t know what else to say. LYF indeed squeezed out her face HARD when crying and haters still be like she won’t emote in fear of looking ugly. It’s such a crime to be naturally pretty. Dilraba is another good example, just because she’s pretty, even if she acts all out… haters still say she wouldn’t emote either. Do the people here do plastic surgery or something? Maybe they feel more connected with actresses who done plastic surgery that’s why there’s such bias.
Coralie
Found the fanboy lol
Anonymous
Better than finding the bot lol!
María
Are you bot, Coralie?
Nuoa
I found you, you are the fangirl or bot I was looking for. Your comments regarding Liu Yi Fei and Yang Yang’s acting are sensible, however, it is clear that you are resentful. It is sad that you say, “I don’t find the lie in your speech,” even though the person who made the comment had intentions of dehumanizing LYF. You people need to be reasoned and educated. You are cavemen with technology.
Hired Minion
“My boss wants to be known as #1 best at acting actress, this is the best I can do when attacking very talented people.”
-Hired minion to attack LYF
The real hired minion
You just admitted that your life is sad. My condolences to you.
Coralie
@Nuoa dehumanizing an actress? By calling her borderline average? And the person said she’s a bland unattractive actress who can’t act, which I agree with. So calling someone unattractive is now dehumanizing? Lady you need to check your logic. What is deemed attractive to you may not be attractive to me. It’s not dehumanizing to say someone is not pretty. I’ve found Zhou Dong Yu not attractive in the aesthetic sense, but she’s a darn good actress. And I’ve supported her in articles written about her. LYF, however, is at most an average actress.
Lauren
Honey, the point is that you wouldn’t have even cared if Hunter2020 sent death threats to LYF, you only care about agreeing with an opinion that resonates with yours. It’s called echo chamber. As long as one person has the same opinion as you, you don’t care if there are verbal abuses in their comment.
I agree that LYF is not a good actress, she has not improved since she debuted. However, even if there are users who share my opinion, I will not turn a blind eye to insults. Let’s learn to be civilized. Let’s not act like cavemen with technology.
Coralie
@Lauren Sweetie, I only agreed to his ONE response, didn’t read his other ones about her being a whore or whatever. Y’all need better comprehension related to where I REPLIED.
Anon
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Anonymous
Using your logic, then you are a hater.
Jyssy
LYF is gorgeous women and a good actress! Im not a fan of chinese drama but becouse of her i watch it, its good not bad but i enjoy it. I dnt know her leading man never knw him but his ok.
Sanity
Why this comment section is so focused in actors and actress that are not part of the post or even of the drama. The post is about the cute fanboy of the actor and his babyface, but people end up fighting about LYF, ZLY, YM, ZD, my God! And some dare to say there is no fandom fight among old generation fans, that fandom fights is fault of liuliang celebrities, lol, you are so exposed, toxic fans
Carol
Technically this post is about LYF as well since he’s fanboying over her. Also, this is nothing compared to what liulang fandoms can do to the entirety of Weibo. I don’t see any real fans here on this post, just a bunch of antis.
Moa
Misogyny plays a part in the comments section. Users would never comment similar idiocy in an article about actors. When it comes to women, there is always a sandstorm. Look how they dragged ZLY
Anon
Looks like ZLY fandom needs to leave Chen Xiao and his wife alone, as well as prettier actresses that are better at acting.
Amalia
The level of fetish and parasocial relationships that certain fans have developed is worrisome.
I love breaking Weibo
Yup, someone predicted correctly. Dream of Splendor is doing really well, ZLY is really afraid of being forgotten and at this time, she got back with FSF to get on hot search. If it is a sincere dinner, why not do it quietly? Why pay the paparazzi to get such clear videos of the whole thing? Looks like FSF didn’t learn his lesson how he got tricked into the marriage. Each and every single date they went on, there are always paparazzi at the right time. Unless she’s compensating him money to do these things, other wise I’ll believe he is too gullible jus like that headache Kasuo in Ice Fantasy. Weibo must be breaking again, it’s going to be all her attention again. Her old news again and again.
Anonymity
Nice try Marcus Sim! I know u and Avenue will be reading. She is a staff here and u pass the same news here onto your weekly videos. First, u guys try to broadcast that zly is being stalked and photographed secretly. Next, the videos of reunion with ex husband will broadcast after, and say remember she was being stalked? Don’t ridicule our IQ. Secretly taking a photo with an open space that huge and she doesn’t notice? She even posed nicely right in the middle. If someone knows they being stalked, wil not double their security? Still go on dates at public places too? It’s obvious who schemed it start to end and what is the goal. Already know who she hires internationally to seek overseas opportunities. Just tell her to work on her English if she hopes to work with jet li and donnie yen, she must be thinking she can always get dubbed.
Anonymous
Wow Vee, you are working overtime on the hate department lol!
Anon
Can it be Marcus? Can we really get paid? How should we react to that peaceful reunification? Just not long ago we cursed FSF and his mom so hard. Should we say good things about them again, since saying she made wrong decision wouldn’t sound good.
Lisa
I know the majority of the comments in here are like hating on some actress or another, so I feel like my comment is kind of irrelevant. I just came here to praise Xu Haiqiao’s acting. I just finished the drama, and I thought he did excellent job as the villain. The last few episodes where he was brought back in really had me hating his character. His eyes really demonstrated how he lost himself and his morality. Bravo Xu Haiqiao!
Nayeli
People have freedom of speech, but clearly, not freedom of thought. And therefore they cannot abandon their ignorance.
Back to the topic, this is the first time I have seen Haiqiao. I’m happy with his acting, so I’ll keep an eye out for his next projects.