“I’m not qualified to comment on artist’s performances” says popular host He Jiong after the Go! Fridge 拜托了冰箱 episode of him praising cellist Ouyang Nana’s acting skills recently aired. His comments seem to have landed him in hot water with viewers who disagreed with him but what’s the fuss really?
After drawing attention with her role as Liu Haoran’s cello playing romantic interest in 2014’s Beijing Love Story, the Berklee College of Music student has slowly been adding on to her acting portfolio over the years and even landed the lead role in this year’s The Great Ruler opposite Roy Wang. Unfortunately for her though, despite her best efforts, many viewers were left wanting by her performance. This was one of the topics discussed in Go Fridge’s latest episode – specifically, her exaggerated acting when she participated in the variety show I Am the Actor 我就是演员 which drew a lot of criticism from viewers.
Perhaps He Jiong meant well and that his intention was to encourage her to continue working hard in the industry when he said her performance ended up looking very exaggerated “perhaps because she was coached that way or that it was the result of editing”, because “that’s not her normal tone of speech”. In addition, he believes that Netizen’s standards when it comes to evaluating an actor’s skills in a variety show is wrong, hence Ouyang Nana’s acting is actually “very good”, even praising her performance as very “skillful”.
Whatever the case, his defense of the musician turned actress didn’t exactly go down well amongst Netizens and got him a lot of flak, because as some have pointed out, excessive tolerance for poor acting is too indulgent and doesn’t really help an actor to improve it.
It seems the host himself realised his blunder based on what he wrote on his social media page -“I just finished recording the program and saw a segment on the Internet, and I felt that my comments were inappropriate. Actually I felt it was inappropriate as soon as I said it. I also communicated my concern with the program’s team but maybe because they felt I was concerned about my industry juniors that they decided to leave it in the edit. .. I’m not qualified to comment on artist’s performances, I also have no right to comment on other programs (referring to I Am the Actor), nor should I be vaguely expressing opinions that may hurt others however unintentionally. I will take this as a learning opportunity” said He Jiong.
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Anonymous
Sad to see him take back his words when I agreed with him earlier. Sounds like he had to save himself. Those keyboard warriors are just haters, oynana haters. They don't want any popular people (HJ) to block their way of attacking somebody they hate to see rising to stardom. Fans are afraid of new actresses replacing their idol that's why we always see 30 years old women pretending to be 16. Ouynana is not the best yet but she is new and the script was terrible anyway. There are worse actresses when they acted for years and people want to pick on her bc they jealous she already have music talent no need to expand. She's too greedy to want too much.
Anonymous
Ouyang Nana should stick to music. She was terrible in the big budget drama, The Great Ruler. I am guessing that she is well connected in the industry to get her part. This has nothing to do with jealousy. Watching her act in the above drama was like watching paint dry.
Anonymous
Lol thanks for proving me, Anon1 correct about netizens being jealous if somebody is multitalented.
Hate it every time people always attack on women's acting skills with dumb excuses like she's already good at music, or she's already good at modelling, or she's already too pretty to act. They don't do the same with men, I really wonder why. She is so new to acting and the pacing of TGR was one of the crappiest thing ever, even a veteran actress playing her role will be paint dry as well. It sounds like the harsh haters were not really passionate about her needing to improve. If they are they would also talk about the scripts and directing too, like what He Jiong said before he was attacked. It sounds like haters just wanting to kick her out of acting asap in case she grows bigger, she's already too influential with music and they hate that already. Young and successful, I think she's from a rich family or something too. I know she is super lucky but let's be fair here. It's not like the actors did that good either in TGR. She looks so young and not even pretty to me but I find the attackers to overboard. It sounded like they threatened He Jiong that he will lose support if he don't agree with what the attackers want him to say. I never find things he say matter bc it happened in the past before when netizens want him to praise somebody then he had to praise that person to stay famous. He always go with the flow instead of stating out the truth and what's really in the mind.
Anonymous
She does have good connection in the industry because her parents were actors and her aunt was also a singer. She's had a lot of exposure to the entertainment world as a child.
Anonymous
Well i dont think all leads in The Great Ruler are good in acting, all are so so.. even the others' acting like paint dry.. well maybe because the Director see something in those young actors and actresses, he use them in this drama.
she's bad at acting, but she can improve, well if you watch her older drama (well i cant even finish to watch it) you can see her improvement in TGR. she's only 19, just like the other lead, they still have room to improve.
constructive criticism is needed, but not by hating.
and yeah, she knows her weakness and bad in acting, she posted like diary notes for her newest ads campaign and said (or clarified) that she put her interest in music and for acting is because she wants to challenge herself.
so don't worry, i guess she will put more focus in music for the future.
Anonymous
Saying her bad acting skill is due to being coached that way or that’s result of editing, he offended staffs and mentors of another program. They are professional actors, while he is not. It good that he aware of his mistake and took back his words.
Anonymous
Yep way to deflect the issues to others …so it’s the mentors, editors and other staffs in production problems…��…
Anonymous
Ouyana Nana is an easy target because of her family background, but it sucks that people can't recognize that she might be possibly talented on her own. Maybe not in acting, but she's quite good with the cello.
Anonymous
Ur…I think He Jiong is actually telling you people he's in the industry for so long but he don't even have the rights to judge who's good at acting. So all you people not working in the industry have more "no rights" to judge actors. After all they are only acting according to how they were ordered. Of course the coaches know they would shoulder all criticism and will not be easily offended like that. In a role where the character was not given any chance to act super high because the script said to act like a rock, if the actor acted like a boring rock then they did everything right.
Remember Mao Xiao Hui and her crew, when they were role playing Chinese Paladin @ this link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGFtaa5DBCg
Yeah….that is really bad acting there along with bad directing altogether, they directed everything themselves. There is a difference when you actually see Mao Xiao Hui in a real drama like The Legend of Twin Flowers. With proper coaching, you would see she did so much better than what we see in the horrifying Chinese Paladin roleplay. Everything depends on the intelligence of the director or coach, unless actors directed things themselves then they are to be blamed.
Anonymous
@5.b His post is not about telling netizens that they have no right to judge actors. He merely realized his blunders and feel apologetic.
Although good directors can guide actors well and bring up their skill to full potential but said actors act badly is because of bad directing is not right. Good or bad, Actors are responsible for their acting. It's their trade.
Nana has so much potential and she also had a lot of good oportunities. She is very young and still has room to improve.
Anonymous
This is basic logic.
Here's what you can say about bad acting. The scene saids for the actor to cry, and they cannot cry convincingly, ok that's bad acting.
But if the scene tells a person to act like dry paint and they really acted like dry paint, their acting is CORRECT and if anybody complains then ofc go to the director, that is not the actor's fault. Blaming actors for that type of thing is the REAL wrong thing, not the other way around LOL! Actors are responsible for acting, not directing. Hopefully y'all know how to read properly to understand this simple logic. I agree with He Jiong he said he's no professional. So are you guys, that's probably why y'all can't understand this logic. One thing for sure people in this site are so sketchy, always trying to attack actresses who has potential to become stronger.
Anonymous
I have long suspected that Ouyang Nana was well connected in the industry. Now I know that her UC Berkley education, brand sponsorships, and acting roles are all due to her connections. I guess money cannot buy acting talent.
You cannot blame on others for what she is lacking off in acting skills. Look at the young actors in The Untamed. None of them have her connections, yet they gave 110% of themselves to their roles and yet the budget for this drama is nothing compared to The Great Ruler.
Ouyang Nana is good with the cello, because it is a technical skill that she has learned from when she was little. Acting takes a lot of creativity in which she is lacking. Guess her family can buy her more acting classes and roles to practice upon. Let's see how much she can improve by her next drama, Golden Powder Family Dream.
Anonymous
Zhao Lusi and Ouyang Nana are roughly around the same age and yet one can act and the other cannot.
Anonymous
Ouyang Nana should have been in The Legend of Awakening with Arthur Chen. You will have 2 privileged kids from well connected family act together or phone in their performances. She probably will do just as badly as Cheng Xiao. IT proves that family connection/money can buy you roles, but you have to put some effort into those roles.
Anonymous
If you want to bring in Zhao Lusi, you have too look at her history first.
When she was in Cinderella Chef, the FL was criticized ugly by everyone but Zhao Lusi (SFL) looked even worse than the FL everyone complained about. Although I think ZLS acted quite well in there, she wasn’t pretty at that time yet. So people think her acting was bad and I believe the cause of that was only because of her not looking attractive enough.
When she was in Oh My Emperor I and II, Love Better Than Immortality, and Love of Thousand Years, she was playing the same type of character for all those 4 dramas. The reviews aren’t that great, some people loved her but some people were also overwhelmed by her repetitiveness and even hated it. To be honest, the directing for those 3 dramas are really bad IMO and had nothing to do with her acting.
Finally, in The Romance of Tiger and Rose, if you are a true fan of hers you should know her character is once again is the exactly same again (OME 1 and II, LBTI, and LOTY) for the 5th time in a roll. However, this time it is really special. Nobody hates her repetitive acting this time. Even though she is just acting the same again, everybody loves it! The drama has super good reviews that really lives up to the hype. When you watch it, the pace is fast and the directing really does rocks. It’s honestly good. So I believe good directing has more to do with everything than people usually think. Actors are important but only second to the director. It is unfair to push blame on actors when the fault is in the hands of the director and the actors had no control over anything. The storyline for LOTY could’ve been better than TROTAR and the ML was even better looking, but the directing in LOTY was slow and boring, and honestly she didn’t look that pretty in there. In TROTAR, Zhao Lusi looks pretty at every angle. I think she fixed her teeth, it used to be a bit crooked and it annoyed me in the past but not anymore. Maybe, over the years, Zhao Lusi might have paid closer attention to her acting as well and don’t overdo some expressions that can make her look less pretty. I feel that her acting is still the same but maybe it improved too, I don’t know how arguable that is. But for sure, the directing improved that’s why TROTAR is more well received compare to the rest of all her other dramas that are so similar. It used to be that nobody cares about Zhao Lusi at all in the past because she can never be a threat, but after TROTAR, the script and directing was good, her acting improved, and she also looked prettier, she is becoming a threat and we start seeing anti-fans attempting spraying dirt on Zhao Lusi recently. If she can grow even more popular we'll see things get even more harsh.
My point is, Ouyangnana only started acting so she can improve overtime like Zhao Lusi. Zhao Lusi did not gain popularity overnight. She played the same type of roles so many times and mostly failed. It wasn’t until TROTR, which is still the same role, and she finally succeed at it. I believe the success of TROTR is because of excellent directing, they make everything looks rich and high in quality when it’s obviously low budgeted and just a web drama.
Anonymous
If acting good or bad is depend on directors like 5.b and 5.d said, why industry still give acting award to actors? Should the acting award be given to a director who coach actors well instead?
When her acting is not good enough but be on the survivor acting show like that, it can’t help be criticized by audiences. Nana acting has not yet good enough to be described as skillful or very good. It more obvious when compared to her peers like Song Zhuer or Wen Chi. He Jiong knew that he was overpraised her and admit his mistake.
Anonymous
Some of c-nets who keep attack Ouyang Nana are Wang Yuan’s possessive fans. They disliked that Nana and Wang Yuan are good friend. Ouyang Nana is very talented in music. So they attacked her acting instead. While compare to Wang Yuan, Nana acting skill still better. On this episode, Nana told funny stories about Wang Yuan. This make some of his fans upset. Some even accused her and the show create CP. There are morons in every fandom, but TFBoys team had never asked their fans to stop attacking poor girl.
Anonymous
@Anonymous 5.e
Obviously Actors (true) success comes from directors, but what the audience love are actors and not directors. Awarding actors would make fans happier, but both parties do get awards, not only actors.
Actors and directors go hand in hand. Directors have to keep actors happy so they have more will to listen and work hard. Actors in the past have more talents, such as Stephen Chow, Jet Li, Dicky Cheung, etc. They were actors but they were able to direct at the same time. Actors today only know how to act and they aren't able to direct anything. Even a long time actress like Yang Mi, I never heard before that she ever directed anything. I bet if she even dare to give out an input on how something should be portrayed, she'll get in trouble and netizens will call her a diva.
I guess He Jiong offending director could be a true thing. After Zhao Liying revealed there might be issues with her new drama (Legend of Fei) it was not a flattering thing for her director. Her next work was supposed to be a collaberation with the famous Zheng Xiaolong but he completely ditched her, handed the drama to another director to work with her and he moved to work on a different drama with other actors. If directors are not important, her fans would not be so angry that she isn't going to get to work with Zheng Xiaolong. Famous directors are the people who will guarantee success behind the actor's back.
Anonymous
The director in The Great Ruler said that Riley Wang/Wang Yuan tried really hard to act and learn. He did not say that about Ouyang Nana. Cannot blame the fandom on Ouyang Nana's bad acting.
Anonymous
Saying these young inexperienced idol actors/actresses are great actors is a tremendous insult to the truly great actors & actresses, who spent years studying and perfecting their skills. There are only a very few true natural talents (who also still have to work hard). The rest all need to work hard and try to improve.
Anonymous
Eh! With water army these days any mediocre actress can turn themselves good from buying compliments. All this young girl got was a complimentary from a hoster, how big is her crime really?? All the scary cats armies already have to make such a big deal and harass that dude and her. Isnt getting too obvious they scare she will become a good actress and dominate acting? Its only compliment she aint win no big awards or nothin. Maybe she should just kiss that famous hoster's lips to gain attention instead of acting.
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